Terrible images...

[Rodrigo]

Have you seen what a group of irakies did to some foreign (for them) man?
Some days ago a video was released on TV. There some assholes with wrapped faces cut the head of a guy, just like they were cutting some lamb chops. That guy was totally conscious while they were cutting his head. It is a horrible video.

There you can see the real dimensions of what hate could make to people. This goes beyond political issues and arrives in the camps of world's dooming. Too bad I had to see this.

[Nikki]

I heard about that, it makes me sick to my stomach

[Rodrigo]

It's crazy, when I saw it I felt like crying, so sad, so gross, then I felt so fuckin angry.

[marcobigoni]

Yes I saw that and yeah that's horrible, but anyone have seen the pic of the american soldiers that torturing irakies? that's horrible to, violence generate violence

[ambivalence]

exactly... it's a vicious cycle. why can't people see that we're all in this together?

[Nikki]

Apparently the photos of the soldiers being tortured were fake

[marcobigoni]

NO Nikki unluckly it's all true!

[brumar]

Originally Posted by Nikki

Apparently the photos of the soldiers being tortured were fake

The British ones were faked by the Daily Mail (I think) and the editor has now resigned. Sadly the American ones were not faked - and there are lot worse which the Bush administration is refusing to release at present.

[Deep137]

this whole thing is driving me nuts . . . I got so pissed when I saw the american photos because I knew that once those got published, people would retaliate in revenge, as they clearly did with Nick Berg (I think his name is) and it's just going to be a stupid cycle of us trying to be patriotic again and reacting against this awful video, and so on and so forth. I actually watched the video, online, because I thought it was so horrible that I really couldn't believe that it happened--I mean this shit happens in movies, and then to think of someone doing this in real life is sickening. as for the video, I just got super nervous right before I watched it and couldn't even finish it because I couldn't believe what I was watching--you could hear him screaming and the iraqis around him chanting and it was really bloodcurdling. my friend watched the whole thing and at the end she said that they hold up his head and dangle it and I don't think I'd be able to handle watching that. not even because of the sheer horror, but I felt like it was sacriligious or just morally wrong for me to be seeing this video and I can't imagine what his parents feel like, not only having this done to their son, but having millions of people watching it, talking about it, and maybe even seeing the video themselves although I have a feeling that they would shy away from ever seeing it. it's just all really fucked up.

[peewee]

Yeah I saw the video and I wish I hadn't. My problem was I noticed at the start of it that it was edited. I'm not just saying this to make people go ooooh. It definitely is edited. So I watched the rest thinking this will be a walk in the park. It's all fake anyway. Unfortunately, the rest was very very real and I really wish I never saw it. There are two points in it where his face is two-dimensional and edited on, but like the bad parts are definitely happening. So I'm not sure what to think and I don't know why it has been edited.

Let me just say before anyone thinks about it, you may not under any circumstances link to the movie here. If anyone wants to find it, it isn't that hard. I don't want there to be an easy link for curious people to stumble across. Everybody I know that has seen it has said they wish they had never seen it. So push your curiosity aside for the sake of being able to actually get to sleep at night.